- Dragon Ball Z Forum
- →
- The Lounge
- →
- Deep Discussion
- →
- Realistic Proportions for Disney Princesses
| We hope you enjoy your visit to this forum. If you are reading this then it means you are currently browsing the forum as a guest, we don’t limit any of the content posted from guests however if you join, you will have the ability to join the discussions! We are always happy to see new faces at this forum and we would like to hear your opinion, so why not register now? It doesn’t take long and you can get posting right away. Click here to Register! If you are having difficulties validating your account please email us at admin@dbzf.co.uk If you're already a member please log in to your account: |
| Realistic Proportions for Disney Princesses | |
|---|---|
| Tweet Topic Started: Aug 15 2016, 11:43 AM (3,219 Views) | |
| breaker335 | Aug 15 2016, 11:43 AM Post #1 |
 
|
So I recently came across this video And I have to say, I have the biggest confused look at the end of the video. Little kids feeling self-conscious about cartoon designs? That's a first. Thoughts? |
| |
 |
 
|
| + Clearin | Aug 15 2016, 12:45 PM Post #2 |
 
|
I don't get why all women were using cartoons as their standards for beauty, rather than just using the real life women around them. |
| |
|
|
| Buuberries | Aug 15 2016, 12:46 PM Post #3 |
No
|
cuz little kids are impressionable just like how us guys probably wanted to be superheroes or some sort of athlete when we were little |
| ¯\(°_o)/¯ | |
|
|
|
| lazerbem | Aug 15 2016, 09:45 PM Post #4 |
 
|
Expecting cartoons to give good proportions is weird, because they're stylized. There are ways of making it realistic, but that usually doesn't end well(Mars Needs Moms is a prime example of this). Some diversity in shapes would be nice, not gonna lie, but in the end, cartoons will always be different from reality. Also, Buzzfeed is awful with this kind of thing. Edited by lazerbem, Aug 15 2016, 09:47 PM.
|
 Crazy cat cults in the woods | |
|
|
|
| + Pyrus | Aug 16 2016, 09:47 PM Post #5 |
 
|
I never thought I should look like a cartoon or based my figure on one. That's silly IMO. I don't know why any other kid does it. I would think they'd be more likely to take after someone actually in their life than someone they watch on TV. |
|
Spoiler: click to toggle
| |
|
|
|
| + Son-Goku | Aug 17 2016, 01:14 AM Post #6 |
孫悟空
|
It makes sense though if there's no one in their real life that they have to look up to. |
 RP Character Bios Dragon Ball Super: The Super Human Dragon Ball Super: Preparation for the Tournament of Power | |
|
|
|
| + Clearin | Aug 17 2016, 10:42 AM Post #7 |
|
I may have wanted to have DBZ powers when I was younger, but I never expected it to happen. And I definitely never had any kind of body issues because my body wasn't big and muscular like the guys in cartoons. No one is telling women that they have to look like this. They create the problem for themself because they assume they have to look like that. |
|
| |
|
|
|
| Buuberries | Aug 17 2016, 11:20 AM Post #8 |
|
No
|
these types of things affect people differently. just because you had the mental resources to overcome any body image pressures doesnt mean everyone is resilient to it, and it doesn't mean that they did it upon themselves. that goes with any mental issues: people don't choose to have depression or anxiety lmao. you have kids who are already impressionable and then you get the ones who have low self-esteem and have a particular thing about themselves that they dont like (e.g., body image) who are even more susceptible, and then theyre bombarded for decades -- whether it's blunt or really subtle cuz the media and society in general is rly good at that -- that the person with the "perfect" body is happy and has everything he or she needs. it's not a choice and idk why you think that. it's an actual issue. there are actually people with anorexia, bulimia, and a whole range of other eating disorders, and they also have a high comorbidity rate with mood disorders such as depression and social anxiety. people don't choose to have these things. Edited by Buuberries, Aug 17 2016, 11:21 AM.
|
| ¯\(°_o)/¯ | |
|
|
|
| Copy_Ninja | Aug 17 2016, 11:38 AM Post #9 |
Novacane for the pain
|
I think people misinterpret how these things influence kids. It's not like they look at these princesses and think 'oh hey, I want to look exactly like that' as if it's a conscious choice. Think of it this way. The disney princesses are marketed very heavily towards young girls, they slap those images on just about anything. Girls become accustomed to those images and the way they look. Then, as they get older and move towards more live action media, they see more girls with skinny frames which is something they're already used to seeing in media so it becomes the norm. Over time these kind of things build up and can effect girls perception of body image. Kids are so impressionable and these characters are created to be relatable to them and if so many of those characters look a certain way they are going to take it on board. |
 We'll never be those kids again
| |
|
|
|
| + Clearin | Aug 17 2016, 12:11 PM Post #10 |
|
I'm not convinced. No one told them they have to look like cartoon characters. I don't care if it's subconscious or not, the problem isn't the art style of a drawing, the problem is people actually thinking, consciously or not, that not only is a specific type of way they have to look, but that they base this on a cartoon rather than real life people around them. Surely they can look at the hundreds of adult women around them and realise that "Oh no, I guess it's okay if I don't have a tiny waist". Maybe the proportions of a disney princess isn't realistic, but you know what else isn't realistic? Magic flying carpets, wish-granting genies, puppets that come to life, elephants that can use their ears to fly, mermaids, fairies and a whole lotta other fantasy stuff in disney movies. It's annoying when people say "Media tells girls they need to look like this". No, YOU'RE telling yourself you need to look like that. Edited by Clearin, Aug 17 2016, 12:11 PM.
|
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
Aug 17 2016, 12:24 PM Post #11 |
|
So you would be okay with Disney movies and other forms of media exclusively containing white male heterosexual characters? It's the exact same thing. Representation. If a young girl grows up watching a shows or films where none of the characters look like her, that could be an issue depending upon the type of mentality she has. That's why we care now about representation in movies and tv. That's why we have black characters, strong female characters, and yes, even chubby characters who play more important roles and not always the comic role. |
|
|
|
| + Clearin | Aug 17 2016, 12:42 PM Post #12 |
|
Yes, I'd be 100% okay with that. I'd also be 100% okay if it was 100% exclusive black female bisexual characters. I don't see cartoon characters as a representation of me. They're their own unique character. Cartoon characters don't "represent" you just because you happen to share a trait with them, they represent themself. It's completely arbitrary what counts in the first place. Why does sexual orientation, gender or skin colour make a cartoon character represent you? What about hair colour? Does every brown haired character represent every brown haired person? Shouldn't EVERY human character be a representation of you because you're a human too? I don't give a s*** what colour, sexual orientation, gender, size or anything else a character is, I just care about their character. The entire thing just bugs me. Ironically, it seems kinda sexist to me when you start saying the gender of a character matters. Why should a strong female character be worth any more than a strong male one? The obvious exceptions to this of course are cartoon characters based on real people, like Jackie Chan in the Jackie Chan cartoon, but you'd have to be famous for that to happen. Edited by Clearin, Aug 17 2016, 12:44 PM.
|
|
| |
|
|
|
| breaker335 | Aug 17 2016, 12:55 PM Post #13 |
|
Pretty sure that's something the parents should take notice of. If you hear your daughter say "Mommy/Daddy, why don't I look like Elsa?" I think that should be a huge warning sign that something ain't right. |
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
Aug 17 2016, 01:12 PM Post #14 |
|
That's the first time I've ever heard someone say they'd be okay with shows and TV that exclusively contained white heterosexual male characters, but I suppose there's always a first for everything.
Because for the longest time male characters were portrayed as strong, capable, and rational whereas female characters were dupey, weak, and contributed nothing to the plot. Do you not remember our history and the stereotypes we've fought to overcome within the last several decades, or does that just suddenly not mean anything to you? Throw it all out the window? Let's go back to the days when women were portrayed as weak idiots and black people weren't even on TV? Yeah, that's a step in the right direction for sure. It's literally the same thing here. Why do we never see people of different body types on TV or in films? Why does a person's weight matter? I'm using the same argument as you are, and it makes perfect sense for my side as well. An exclusively skinny, beautiful cast projects the idea that people of other body types don't matter. |
|
|
|
| Mihawk | Aug 17 2016, 01:18 PM Post #15 |
 
|
I agree with what you guys are saying but there should be a balance of not encouraging fat logic at the same time |
 | |
|
|
|
| 1 user reading this topic (1 Guest and 0 Anonymous) | |
|
|
| Go to Next Page | |
| « Previous Topic · Deep Discussion · Next Topic » |
| Track Topic · E-mail Topic |
 4:44 PM Jul 13
|
Theme Designed by McKee91
Powered by ZetaBoards Premium · Privacy Policy